tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post3503111759312243382..comments2023-12-28T17:14:24.356-08:00Comments on Monkey Trials: THE MAGIC WORD IS BEAUTYScott Hatfield . . . .http://www.blogger.com/profile/00363885800131794994noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-50444335029464874602008-06-04T13:46:00.000-07:002008-06-04T13:46:00.000-07:00I made additional comments yesterday, but they nev...I made additional comments yesterday, but they never made it through the moderation process. If you guys would care to continue the conversation you can join me at <A HREF="atheism-analyzed.blogspot.net" REL="nofollow"> my place </A>. I appreciate your calm demeanors and thoughtful statements. Hope you will come on over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-88885342345995704452008-06-04T07:34:00.000-07:002008-06-04T07:34:00.000-07:00Actually, I think that YouTube, in the process of ...Actually, I think that YouTube, in the process of uploading the video, processes the audio--which in my case was a good thing. On the original Windows Media clip that I made, PZ wasn't all that loud and there's one point where I chuckle at something he said, and I'm WAY louder.<BR/><BR/>But I just heard the audio on YouTube and now PZ is quite a bit louder and my chuckle quite a bit less so. SoScott Hatfield . . . .https://www.blogger.com/profile/00363885800131794994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-90243546634199138442008-06-03T22:08:00.000-07:002008-06-03T22:08:00.000-07:00Thanks for recording and posting this!It was good ...Thanks for recording and posting this!<BR/><BR/>It was good almost meeting you the other night. Joe and I spent the rest of Friday and Saturday covering a conference up in Davis, about climate change and urban gardening. As you might imagine, large parts of that were less than cheerful. Getting just a taste of the "Wheee! Isn't this fun?" that motivates us both was a tonic we needed right then. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-62662081750001011272008-06-03T17:32:00.000-07:002008-06-03T17:32:00.000-07:00As an aside, I've been looking at the Flip video c...As an aside, I've been looking at the Flip video camera as a something that's simple to use, quick to bring into action and cheap enough that having it broken or stolen would not be a big deal. One question: is the recording quality we see in the YouTube clips the same as in the original?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-27144916407294708092008-06-03T16:16:00.000-07:002008-06-03T16:16:00.000-07:00Science is rational and critical thinking develope...Science is rational and critical thinking developed to an art. And what is this "wisdom" you're talking about? Where does it come from? Either it, too, comes from rational and critical thinking, or it doesn't (in which case its veracity cannot be relied upon).<BR/><BR/>Atheism isn't <I>exactly</I> a dominant force in world affairs - unless you want to talk about the fact most religions worship Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-6027929402785914642008-06-03T10:49:00.000-07:002008-06-03T10:49:00.000-07:00Stan,I think your post is borne more out of fear t...Stan,<BR/><BR/>I think your post is borne more out of fear than anything else. You fear science because it encroaches on your belief. PZ is an effective communicator, so he becomes a focus for your fear. It's understandable. <BR/><BR/>At various times religion has claimed that gods were responsible for earthquakes, tsunami, plagues, that the sun orbited the earth. An astonishing number still David Carsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05315583332440346611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-645765918722078572008-06-03T09:32:00.000-07:002008-06-03T09:32:00.000-07:00Stan wrote:"Since science cannot conclusively prov...Stan wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Since science cannot conclusively prove that there exists nothing beyond material existence, it (science) is limited."<BR/><BR/>Religion cannot provide any shred of evidence that there exists anything "beyond material existence" (whatever that's supposed to mean), much less provide us reliable information about such non-thing things. It, too, is limited. Religion also Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-84822656187620614622008-06-03T09:26:00.000-07:002008-06-03T09:26:00.000-07:00I'll do my best to break down teh st00pidz that hu...I'll do my best to break down teh st00pidz that hurt me the most.<BR/><BR/><I>A question. Is science a necessary and sufficient condition for Atheism and the attendant ridicule and personal attacks that Atheism produces? If so, as PZ projects, then science has a very dark side, one to watch very carefully and to afford some fear.</I><BR/><BR/>Clearly this person already distrusts science. First, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-5662750268501571742008-06-03T09:12:00.001-07:002008-06-03T09:12:00.001-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.muse142https://www.blogger.com/profile/08581372124820663981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-10522820308811993182008-06-03T09:12:00.000-07:002008-06-03T09:12:00.000-07:00Stan: PZ sure might be a jerk. But that doesn't ...Stan: PZ sure might be a jerk. <BR/>But that doesn't make him right, or wrong. <BR/><BR/>Fred Phelps sure might be a jerk.<BR/>Pat Robertson sure might be a jerk.<BR/>Richard Dawkins sure might be a jerk.<BR/>Rush Limbaugh sure might be a jerk.<BR/>Al Franken sure might be a jerk.<BR/>But that doesn't make any of them right, or wrong.<BR/><BR/>Say that PZ's an asshat when he's talking about muse142https://www.blogger.com/profile/08581372124820663981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953644170899103489.post-48818102150487882222008-06-03T07:58:00.000-07:002008-06-03T07:58:00.000-07:00I see PZ more as a promoter of hatred than of scie...I see PZ more as a promoter of hatred than of science. If one must accompany the other, then ultimately science will choke on the hatred.<BR/><BR/>A question. Is science a necessary and sufficient condition for Atheism and the attendant ridicule and personal attacks that Atheism produces? If so, as PZ projects, then science has a very dark side, one to watch very carefully and to afford some Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com